PES5 - Playstation 2 online mode...

[tedmaul]

A bit of info to let you know what it's going to be like.

Once you've been through the fairly simple registration process, you get the following menu options:

Match Lobby
Quick Match
Network Options
Information
Logout

You have 10 main servers with 10 lobby's off of each of them. You can browse most of them at will, though some are locked dependant on your place in the rankings. You can also have a 'Quick Match', which just grabs you an opponent at random.

To counter any lag that may occur, at half time you get swapped around, so nobody hosts for the whole game. So it kind of evens it up a little.

There's a basic set of phrases you can use to communicate quickly, though you can edit them to what ever you like. This can be either amusing or extremely annoying, dependant on whether you're playing me or not. :D And obviously you also have the option to input text via the gamepad as well if you want, at half time or full time.

At the moment the PESFan refs are the only people in the world on the thing, so it's a bit lonely. Though it has enabled us to establish that i'm a bit rubbish. :sad: Hope to see you all on there in a few weeks though. :cool:

http://www.darrian.dds.nl/bb/lobby01.JPG

http://www.darrian.dds.nl/bb/lobby02.JPG


If you're looking to get your console online, but don't know where to start, please read here. (http://www.pesfan.com/bulletin/showthread.php?t=85634)

[maddogg104]

Thats just got me even more exited :)

nice sig tedmaul lol :D Its true as well

[TimIgoe]

You think your bad, try playing me then :p

Bah, no-one online :(

[imamazed]

just how laggy is it?

[S_Gerrard]

i have to say..that turned me on a little :cheesy:

[kuja]

Hi mate, are there any lag issues?

edit: someone beat me to it :)

[tedmaul]

Depends who you play. Playing TheBoss whilst he uses his internet connection to try to control the world from his tower a mile above the centre of the earth results in some lag.

Only had a couple of games where it really had an effect on the outcome though...

[TimIgoe]

Lag, so long as theres not much going on on your connection and its a reasonable speed (512k dsl) it seems fine to me :)

I've had a few games on a shared 512k without many (few while pc was downloading something) issues :)

[TimIgoe]

Depends who you play. Playing TheBoss whilst he uses his internet connection to try to control the world from his tower a mile above the centre of the earth results in some lag.

Only had a couple of games where it really had an effect on the outcome though...
lol, we're good at abusing that connection ;)

[kuja]

Great stuff. Thanks for the quick replies :)

[jennytree]

this looks so cool

[TimIgoe]

just wait till you get to play then ;)

[Wingo]

Shexy :cool:

[Chavez]

Are there no ranking :xlips:

[kopite_8]

i have never used ps2 online how do i set up and what do i need? please help me as i would love to play some of the refs and my other mates on pesfan

[Oliseh]

Yowsah

[Bobba W]

Two things to note.

1). That's sooo unfair that I can't play.
2). This must be the first time I've seen Ted's name near a thread that hasn't been locked.

[Gamerbob]

I dont have the online:sad:

[drazer2000]

could anyone explain what you need to get your playstation 2 online please

[Jezthompson]

I'm same as Kopite am looking into this and have never used my ps2 for online play.

I need to by an adapter i assume.

Then can i just use my ntl connection or do ntl need to change anything? Just a case of plugging in the ethernet cable? How much bandwidth does it use as ntl are capping me soon :(

Cheers for any info :)

[alavas]

I wasnt sure about getting it online but now i definately am! Nice shots ted :cool:

[TLT]

i have never used ps2 online how do i set up and what do i need? please help me as i would love to play some of the refs and my other mates on pesfan

http://www.play.com/play247.asp?pa=srmr&page=title&r=PS2&title=111516

(Temp out of stock).

Then you need broadband connection, and your away. You dont need to pay too subscribe (i dont think :undecide: )

They are around £25-30 in shops - and iv seen them in dixons/currys and usual shops.

Amazon, Play, Game, Gamestation (all online) - out of stock

But good old trust Hmv may have some ;) http://www.hmv.co.uk/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=280;-1;-1;-1&sku=55764

[newarkcastle]

if you have aol you will need a router to conect the cable that come with the adaptor! ive just swapped from aol to ntl so i can play pro evo online!

[martinmjt]

looks good.but is there any problems with this when playing the game??

[Marko9Gardinic]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00009RGAC/qid=1128709500/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/202-1378418-1460622

Three left in stock, quick!

[TimIgoe]

a PS2 (slimline or normal with network hardware),

a PC with a network card and USB dsl modem
or a router or some sorts

and ofc the game

plug it all together, set ICS up on your windows box if you use that and that should bea bout it

[kopite_8]

cheers eveyone esp. tony le talent

[tedmaul]

As Tim says though, if you have a slimline ps2 it has the network adaptor built in. :cool:

[TLT]

cheers eveyone esp. tony le talent

Us liverpool fans stick together ;)

[Ferret]

As Tim says though, if you have a slimline ps2 it has the network adaptor built in. :cool:

I got a slimline ps2 :D

Only problem is getting a TV near the PC...

But if there was ever a reason to...it was to play Pro Evo online :D

[brendm84]

can you use a headset to chat?

[NSolano]

so, i buy the network adaptor, plug it in, plug the internet into the adaptor, sign up (for free?) then play online?

is it only 1 player online, or can like 3 of ya mates play online on the same team?

[Andy"The"Master]

so if ya hav a slimline ps2 ya dnt need to buy the lil connectin thing?

[TimIgoe]

I got a slimline ps2 :D

Only problem is getting a TV near the PC...

But if there was ever a reason to...it was to play Pro Evo online :D
how about a _very_ long network cable? ;)

[TimIgoe]

so if ya hav a slimline ps2 ya dnt need to buy the lil connectin thing?
you will need a network cable, but the 'card' is built in :)

[Jezthompson]

Does your internet provider need to do anything to your connection?

Or is it just a normal internet connection using ethernet.

I use ntl and have a cable modem and connect my computer to that with an ethernet cable. So i unplug it form my computer and plug it into the adaptor in my ps2 and away i go. How i register etc then?

Anyone else use a normal NTL broadband connection to do this?

Cheers :)

[TimIgoe]

isp needs to do ntohing

so plug the modem into the ps2 and go :)

[EddyH]

Online = :cool:

[sparkymarky121]

to get ya ps2 online you need:

1. Broadband - not AOL coz their crap and won't let ya play ps2 online!
2. A router for your broadband - ethernet cable to your pc(s) and another for your ps2
3. If you got a slim ps2 then you already got the ethernet socket on the back. Old ps2 owners (like me) should have the network adaptor
4. Plug your ps2 into your router, run the Network CD supplied with the ps2 network adaptor, and AWAY YOU GO!!

Come on PES5!!!! Can't wait!!

[Jezthompson]

isp needs to do ntohing

so plug the modem into the ps2 and go :)


Really surely it cannot be that easy?

Would put my mind at ease if someone said they got it working no prob with ntl ;) will put my order in for an adapter straight away :D

So if i wanted to play my mate 100miles away how would that work? Could it work?

[TimIgoe]

Really surely it cannot be that easy?

Would put my mind at ease if someone said they got it working no prob with ntl ;) will put my order in for an adapter straight away :D

So if i wanted to play my mate 100miles away how would that work? Could it work?
yes its that easy - i don't use NTL myself, but its the same idea as my setup here - plug, follow the network setup (auto auto auto) and play

as for playing your mate, you will be able to find him on the online system - one of you creates a match, the other joins - simple :)

[Jezthompson]

Thanks Tim thanks Sparky :)

Anyone use NTL mind letting me know if its ok with PS2 online and not like AOL?

Cheers.

[sparkymarky121]

Really surely it cannot be that easy?

Would put my mind at ease if someone said they got it working no prob with ntl ;) will put my order in for an adapter straight away :D

So if i wanted to play my mate 100miles away how would that work? Could it work?

Yes, you will be able to play anyone, anywhere in the world, as long as they got a good broadband connection. Not sure how PES5 will work online yet, whether you'll be able to search and invite your mates to play you but you'll most definately be able to play other peeps from around the world!

OH YEAH!!!

[Ferret]

how about a _very_ long network cable? ;)

lol

How long do they go?

[all bout pes]

OI dis game is gonna be nang i cant wait till it comes out 1st day out its MINE!!!!!

[TimIgoe]

Thanks Tim thanks Sparky :)

Anyone use NTL mind letting me know if its ok with PS2 online and not like AOL?

Cheers.
its fine on NTL :) and iirc, it should be better on AOL now than it was - but i could be wrong

[all bout pes]

how do i get a pic up were all my info is????

[tedmaul]

how do i get a pic up were all my info is????

Welcome. The thread that will answer ALL your questions is right here:

http://www.pesfan.com/bulletin/showthread.php?t=46827

[Beckham2461]

WOOOO

Thanks guys

You'll be seeing me online in 2 weeks!!!

[Ferret]

Whats the actual name of the cable I need?

[TimIgoe]

cat 5 cable? (be it a normal / straight one... or a cross over depending on how you connect to your pc / router :))

[Ferret]

cat 5 cable? (be it a normal / straight one... or a cross over depending on how you connect to your pc / router :))

Well I've got the Slimline PS2..

Is this what I need?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/20M-CAT5E-Patch-Network-Lead-Cable-RJ45-CAT5-7-49-Inc_W0QQitemZ5813509598QQcategoryZ51185QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem

[all bout pes]

who ever supports sunderland ur gonna lllllllooooooooooossssseeeee tomorrow 3-0 straight up man u r da best arsenal was goin on dis season were gonna win da premiership chelsea watch here comes utd

[NickMack_Sfc]

I'm getting xbox live version first, then maybe ps2 after.

[newarkcastle]

to get ya ps2 online you need:

1. Broadband - not AOL coz their crap and won't let ya play ps2 online!
2. A router for your broadband - ethernet cable to your pc(s) and another for your ps2
3. If you got a slim ps2 then you already got the ethernet socket on the back. Old ps2 owners (like me) should have the network adaptor
4. Plug your ps2 into your router, run the Network CD supplied with the ps2 network adaptor, and AWAY YOU GO!!

Come on PES5!!!! Can't wait!!

i was told you dont need a router if you have modem that the ethernet cable fits straight into? ie NTL

[m00se]

Whats the actual name of the cable I need?

Standard RJ-45 network cable.

Edited:
Well I've got the Slimline PS2..

Is this what I need?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/20M-CAT5E-Patch-Network-Lead-Cable-RJ45-CAT5-7-49-Inc_W0QQitemZ5813509598QQcategoryZ51185QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem

Yes that's it.

[TimIgoe]

Well I've got the Slimline PS2..

Is this what I need?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/20M-CAT5E-Patch-Network-Lead-Cable-RJ45-CAT5-7-49-Inc_W0QQitemZ5813509598QQcategoryZ51185QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem
assuming you have a router to plug into, yes

if not (i.e. your going to your PC directly), you need a cross over cable.

[TimIgoe]

i was told you dont need a router if you have modem that the ethernet cable fits straight into? ie NTL
correct, you don't - you plug the ps2 into the modem direct - but then you can't use the pc online at the same time ;)

[freMM]

I can't freakin' wait ! !

[Jezthompson]

i was told you dont need a router if you have modem that the ethernet cable fits straight into? ie NTL

Yeah i connect to the internet buy pluging an ethernet cable into my mac from my ntl modem, so surely i just unplug it from my computer and plug into my ps2 adapter?

How does it work for example if i have the option file and someone i want to play doesnt, will it stop me from playing them?

[Ashley_90]

Question : Whats the maximum length you can have each half? Can you have 90 minute long matches? Hehe, that would be funny.

[coxon888]

Yeah i connect to the internet buy pluging an ethernet cable into my mac from my ntl modem, so surely i just unplug it from my computer and plug into my ps2 adapter?

How does it work for example if i have the option file and someone i want to play doesnt, will it stop me from playing them?

You can probably only use the default option file online.

[Gav]

who ever supports sunderland ur gonna lllllllooooooooooossssseeeee tomorrow 3-0 straight up man u r da best arsenal was goin on dis season were gonna win da premiership chelsea watch here comes utd

lol, mate- you are hillarious!!!! have you not realised that england are playing this weekend and that there are NO premiership matches? :p looks like someone is a die hard fan! :rolleyes:

as for the rest of you guys, i've got my ps2 online now- thanks a lot!:cheesy:

[Houston2k5]

Question Awnser ASAP. Can you use a headset online?

[Farrmark]

No mention of a headset can be found online, but I've not plugged one in to try either :undecide:

[Gav]

hey guys, well having previously thought i got my ps2 online, turns out that the cable ive got doesnt fit into my modem! :( can someone please help to how i can get on with tiscali? the modem is a sagem f@st 800 if that helps? thanks very much in advance

[Farrmark]

It's easy to get online with your PS2 :)

Check the threads mentioned earlier and then contact your ISP if still stuck :)

[Ferret]

assuming you have a router to plug into, yes

if not (i.e. your going to your PC directly), you need a cross over cable.

Will it work if I put it in the network port in the back of my computer?

[TimIgoe]

Will it work if I put it in the network port in the back of my computer?
If you modem is USB OR you have a lan modem and TWO network cards, and you enable ICS on the PC, and have a cross over between the PS2 and PC - yes.

[Ferret]

If you modem is USB OR you have a lan modem and TWO network cards, and you enable ICS on the PC, and have a cross over between the PS2 and PC - yes.

Yeh Ive got a USB modem...

So I just need a RJ-45 network cable?

Thanks for your help mate.

[synch]

Hee. I took those pictures. Just wanted to add that :p

[tedmaul]

You can probably only use the default option file online.

It doesn't matter what option file you use, everything resets to default when you go online.

[mohip]

synch - or chipper or anyone that has played the sexbox online (either this or pes4) - how does it compare to the sexbox experience?

i generally prefer the PS2 versions over sexbox, but would only invest this time if the online is superior

[coxon888]

Yea that's sort of what i was getting at :p ;)

[synch]

I miss the headset but I haven't played the xbox version very much so I can't say which was better. Only played a handful of games online with the ps2 too.

In one word, dunno.

:cheesy:

Might be able to tell you in a bit though.

[mohip]

I'll be stalking you, and this thread till i recieve a full reply then :cheesy:

[mohip]

plus the abstentage of a certain scottmichael might make all the new "im the best" PS2 online threads more bearable :D Oh the thought alone makes me wretch - you refs are going to love it ;)



please. scott - dont invest in an adaptor :D

[LipuC]

Few questions regarding gameplay:

1) Is it manual cursor setting or semi auto cursor setting?
2) Can you see the quality of the persons connection? e.g. in fifa you have 4 bars which indicates the quality of the persons connection, if all 4 bars are full then it means that person has a quality connection.


Please answer these or try to, thanks

[dragonskin]

I think I've had my cursor on manual :undecide:

[LipuC]

I think I've had my cursor on manual :undecide:

any chance of confirming it was manual? last year it was semi auto and the game wasn't fun because it allowed cheap goals to be scored easily.

[evade]

would be grateful if u answered these few questions

Is there any ranking system?

Can you skip replays and cutscenes?

Is it the same system as PES4 as in host and client? If so does that not mean that there is lots of lag when playing as client still? :s

Thanks

[tedmaul]

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. If you read the first post you'll know the answer.

[evade]

Sorry, sounds good :D Ta

[Basarili]

Lag, so long as theres not much going on on your connection and its a reasonable speed (512k dsl) it seems fine to me :)

I've had a few games on a shared 512k without many (few while pc was downloading something) issues :)

Whatta where did you come from? and what are you?

[LipuC]

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. If you read the first post you'll know the answer.

do you know if it's manual cursor setting or semi auto?
also can you see the quality of your opponents connection before the game is played?

thanks

[TimIgoe]

Yeh Ive got a USB modem...

So I just need a RJ-45 network cable?

Thanks for your help mate.
cat 5 CROSSOVER direct to the PC (Unless you have a proper network - in which case you just want a normal cat5 cable into a switch)

[TimIgoe]

Whatta where did you come from? and what are you?
I've been around here for 1 1/2 months now :p i work for TheBoss :D

[Basarili]

cat 5 CROSSOVER direct to the PC (Unless you have a proper network - in which case you just want a normal cat5 cable into a switch)

http://www.pesfan.com/bulletin/showthread.php?p=2280842#post2280842

OMG you can help me get me out of this misery it was you i was looking for all those years :cheesy:


I've been around here for 1 1/2 months now :p i work for TheBoss :D

Cool are you the boss self or are you a employee of him.

[tedmaul]

do you know if it's manual cursor setting or semi auto?
also can you see the quality of your opponents connection before the game is played?

thanks

1. Hadn't really noticed, which means it might be manual. :D
2. No.

[Basarili]

1. Hadn't really noticed, which means it might be manual. :D
2. No.

Tedmaul what is that all that 12 3 ?

[tedmaul]

Tedmaul what is that all that 12 3 ?

What are you talking about? :confused:

[mohip]

1 he means you answering everyones individual points like this

2 there was only one point he made on this particular occasion

[coxon888]

I think he's talking about...
1.
2.
3.
etc.

I love the (unintentional) confusion he causes :cheesy:

[Basarili]

1. Hadn't really noticed, which means it might be manual. :D
2. No.

This is what im talking about where do you see any question?

[tedmaul]

I'm numbering the points i make. You guys are weird.

[tedmaul]

This is what im talking about where do you see any question?


I've quoted the bloody questions in my post. Can you stop filling this thread with crap please.

[Basarili]

I've quoted the bloody questions in my post. Can you stop filling this thread with crap please.

I wont say anything on this thread anymore my mouth is zipped.

But i will ask something if i have some online question oke?

[tedmaul]

Yes. Asking something vaguely related to the topic would be great....

[Basarili]

Oke tedmaul can you help me with this one than.

http://www.pesfan.com/bulletin/showthread.php?p=2280842#post2280842

even if you dont think its a serious question its seriously meant perhaps i couldnt explain me ver well.

[tedmaul]

Read this:

http://www.pesfan.com/bulletin/showthread.php?t=85634

[Basarili]

I read that it didnt tell me much about my question but i found another one

http://www.pesfan.com/bulletin/showpost.php?p=148317&postcount=23

Thanks to you i searhced it thanks for giving the thread it was a bit helpfull.:)

[Tucky15]

i cant wait! so the option file always reverts to the original yea? good job i'm arsenal in our league then! I hope it aint too laggy or i'll cry! What is the best ISP to have for least lag?

[Nation]

i just got my ps2 connected so im just waiting for the release...CANT WAIT!!!:cheesy:

However, i would like to know how does the camera settings work? can we configure our own camera settings or do we have to share the same camera settings?

finally, ted mention something about rankings..i was wondering what is the rankings all about??..thats got me exicited in anticipation:cheesy:

[Senden]

Hey, i can't be bothered reading through all this crap as basically that is what half of these posts are sorry to say but i got one ickle question... How does the game run on adsl, i am concerned about my upload speed (30kbps.)

To me it's absolutely stupid to have one person host one half and the other person host the other half. Adsl would have to be supported well or so many people are never going to get a decent game.

[Vasko777]

nice.... no! Very nice, pro evolution have internet is expectacular!!!

FORÇA BENFICA

[timmyedwards]

Just my freeking luck, whats this you say about AOL being rubbish?

And why will it not work, and is there any point me getting an adapter?

[cammyr9]

can i just add,if you referees need help with telling everyone how to setup their ps2 online and every single little problem they have i could easily help out you guys cause i know how busy you lot are! i beta tested the whole sony online thing for the adapters and know every which way to set it up and every little problem! so maybe you could create a post for me where people can ask and i can answer! anyway cya after! hope i can be of help!

[tedmaul]

Read this:

http://www.pesfan.com/bulletin/showthread.php?t=85634

Cheers. That's the thread to do any helping in if you want. :cool:

[Ste]

Please say there is no ranking would be funny seeing people having hissy fits about it :D

[RathX90]

do any of you guys have the PS2 mic headset??
I dont think I've seen it being mentioned

[Senden]

I heard somewhere that the mic isn't supported and to be honest, i am not suprised. Adding a chat function would just add to the potential lag you would get and besides it's a football game, you don't need to chat really unless your doing a 4 v 4 or something ( 2 v 2 wouldn't matter as you can have a half decent idea of what your teamate will do.)

[NSolano]

ok ok, cant u just put the network adaptor in the back of my ps2, then get the cable which plugs straight into the socket in the wall and go thru that, rather than going thru the pc, and i use a local service for my broadband, called karoo (www.karoo.co.uk) will this matter?

[synch]

Ok, saw these two essential questions in here a couple of times.

First of all you can set the cursor change to manual! That was my biggest problem with the online version of pes 4 and was the first thing I checked.

Second of all you can swich to whichever view you want.

[RathX90]

ugh... I hope they add in the mic function in the US version... Gotta talk some trash when Im beating my friend 5 - 0 :rolleyes:

[synch]

You can configure a number of preset phrases that you can activate during the goal kicks, replays and a few other moments.

[limeyboy14]

If I buy the game online, do you think I'll be able to play it against you lot (I have the PS2 network adapter thingy). btw I live in America.

[synch]

Not sure if you would be able to access the lobby's mate :undecide:

[psaila]

Can you do this for PC too? Is it possible and is there any thought to be done?

[jayEm]

I might get myself a new router, save me moving my PS2/Xbox everytime I want to play. :(

[Gary-Max]

If I buy the game online, do you think I'll be able to play it against you lot (I have the PS2 network adapter thingy). btw I live in America.


same question as him, except in N.Z we are PAL so will be getting Pes5.

[kopite_8]

so will it work with ntl broadband?

[synch]

Can you do this for PC too? Is it possible and is there any thought to be done?
Do what?

[ryanblease]

Who cares bout LAG!? When we've got PES 5!! ARGH!!

[TimIgoe]

so will it work with ntl broadband?
as has already been answered, yes

[synch]

Tim, get used to that mate ;)

[Chavez]

Are There A Ranking In It?

[Yido]

So what will i need to buy to play PES5 Online ?

EDIT: on the PS2 this is

[TimIgoe]

So what will i need to buy to play PES5 Online ?

EDIT: on the PS2 this is
read further back in the thread :)

[Yido]

read further back in the thread :)ok thanks



by the way who are you i never seen you around here before?

[dragonskin]

Tim, get used to that mate ;)
:ha:

[TimIgoe]

ok thanks



by the way who are you i never seen you around here before?
again, read the thread (and a few others)

I work for theboss - only been here ~1 1/2 months :)

[kingstefan21]

Gameplay.co.uk no have it in sock for 20 quid but the instructions came in every lingo bar english but mine arrived yesturday and i set it up anyway.

if you need help
email-kingstefan21@aol.com
msn- trueblue365@hotmail.co.uk

[hamish]

It sounds Amazing

[kopite_8]

will there be a ranking chart?

[tedmaul]

You've just asked this in a thread.

[hinkler]

okays

[RandomLovePump]

Are there no ranking :xlips:
Ranking will most likely be in "information".

[cava99]

i wil have to apologise for the negativity in advance but i have a feeling that konami will let us down again with the whole design of the online game.... i felt that they should have adopted the framework of topspin the tennis game which had a great ranking system and had countered lag issues quite well with bars to indicate the players ping... lessons that konami should have learnt a long time ago......

[psaila]

Do what?

The online mode.

[kopite_8]

sorry tedmaul i just wanted a reply quick

[Zola!]

I think I will wait until next gen concearning online play, PS2 Online is just to difficult and I don't know how routers work..

[Bonessi]

ps2 online is easy, really easy. I was set up in about 10 mins tops

[Baumjohann89]

Sorry if this had been asked already, but ive got BT broadband but its wireless connection, is there anyway i can still play PES5 online on my PS2? Or am i better off just getting PES5 for the PC aswell and playing online on my PC?

[LipuC]

Ok, saw these two essential questions in here a couple of times.

First of all you can set the cursor change to manual! That was my biggest problem with the online version of pes 4 and was the first thing I checked.

Second of all you can swich to whichever view you want.


Thats great news about the manual cursor change. Anyway i saw the pes 5 manual here a few days ago on the pes 5 discussions forum and it said there will be indicators showing the quality of the opponents connection but tedamul last night said that feature does not exist. Can you confirm?

thanks

[Tucky15]

yea u can, my internet is wireless, u plugthe ethernet cable into the wirless router.

[Jack25]

I'v got a slimline PS2 but i need to take it back and get another for free cos i think the AC Adaptor's broke:sad:
What's ICS?

[olodude]

cant find network adaptor anywhere, gonna have to buy a slimline.

[Jack25]

It doesn't matter what option file you use, everything resets to default when you go online.
But it goes back to your own option file when you play PES normally again?
Please say i'm right...:xlips:

[dragonskin]

I'v got a slimline PS2 but i need to take it back and get another for free cos i think the AC Adaptor's broke:sad:
What's ICS?
Internet Connection Sharing I think.

[Senden]

Internet Connection Sharing I think.

Yes that is correct, it is used to connect your PC directly to your Console with a crossover cable. You should get one of these if you have a USB modem and don't want to shell out loads of money for an ethernet one.

To do ICS it's simply right click on your internet connection (can be found by going to start and then connect to,) after you right click choose the properties option. Then if you go onto the advanced tab you should see a box you can check which will allow your computer to share the connection.

[synch]

Thats great news about the manual cursor change. Anyway i saw the pes 5 manual here a few days ago on the pes 5 discussions forum and it said there will be indicators showing the quality of the opponents connection but tedamul last night said that feature does not exist. Can you confirm?

thanks
I don't remember seeing anything like that. I'll keep an eye out the next time I'm on (probably tomorrow, busy day today :sad: )

[Jack25]

Internet Connection Sharing I think.

Cheers:)
How do i get it?

EDIT:Cheers Senden Karma for you

[Turk]

cant find network adaptor anywhere, gonna have to buy a slimline.


there still available online

[Gav]

how much is a cross over cable, and where can i get one from?

[TimIgoe]

how much is a cross over cable, and where can i get one from?
Couple of quid and anywhere that sells networking hardware :) (dabs, ebuyer, microdirect to name a few)

[coxon888]

there still available online

Where?

[Senden]

I bought a crossover cable today for £2.50, i would imagine high street shops would be more expensive but if you find any no name computer shops in your area, try them and usually even if they don't sell them, they will probably make you one to the length you need.

[Chavez]

Are there ranking in it?

[Marko9Gardinic]

Where?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00009RGAC/qid=1128781559/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/026-4648463-1674048 theres 3 left on there but you have to buy the game to get the adaptor with it. Im sure you could find one on Ebay as well though

[HanTerp]

I don't remember seeing anything like that. I'll keep an eye out the next time I'm on (probably tomorrow, busy day today :sad: )
According to the manual you should enter one of the lobbies to enter MATCH ROOM. In Match Room you should see LEFT of the player-name some kind of bar, which indicates the lag.
Can you find that?

So if you are here:
http://www.darrian.dds.nl/bb/lobby01.JPG
You enter MATCH ROOM at the left top you should be able to find them :)

If so, this is what it means:

A green full bar means no lag. Yellow means slight lag (not suitable for 2 vs 2). Red means not suited for any play and no bar means the server was't able to read and calculate lag.

Please let us know if it's there :)

[Gav]

I bought a crossover cable today for £2.50...
Internet or shops?

[Bonessi]

Aha! That's what it is. It tells you the quality of the player's connection if they are not already playing a game. I've mine and someone else's while they are waiting for a match. i.e. the greyed out boxes are those currently playing each other.

To pick someone to play, create a match room (choice of name, password and match length) then wait for someone to challenge you.

[synch]

According to the manual you should enter one of the lobbies to enter MATCH ROOM. In Match Room you should see LEFT of the player-name some kind of bar, which indicates the lag.
Can you find that?

So if you are here:
http://www.darrian.dds.nl/bb/lobby01.JPG
You enter MATCH ROOM at the left top you should be able to find them :)

If so, this is what it means:

A green full bar means no lag. Yellow means slight lag (not suitable for 2 vs 2). Red means not suited for any play and no bar means the server was't able to read and calculate lag.

Please let us know if it's there :)
I logged on to see if I could find it but there wasn't anyone online at the time. Couldn't check it.

I did take some pictures of the ranking system. Looks quite elaborate.

[druss]

alrite,ive read all the texts and ive 1 question:
I own a ps2 but not a p.c(yet),will i need a p.c for internet connection?
please reply quick,im going out of my gord

[Bonessi]

No, you can do it with just a router and a broadband connection

[druss]

No, you can do it with just a router and a broadband connection



what exactly is a router dude?

[Bonessi]

Get broadband, you'll get a router or modem. Routers allow seperate connections to be running of the same broadband connection i.e. 2 house pc's or like me, a pc, xbox and ps2.

[TimIgoe]

Routers 'route' traffic to the right machine, they will allow you to have more than one PC on your dsl connection as the will route traffic from internal to external and back again :)

They also add an extra layer of security to a home user by stopping traffic at the router and not letting it up to the pcs :)

[kopite_8]

i cant wait to play online

[HanTerp]

I did take some pictures of the ranking system. Looks quite elaborate.
Please can you show us these pictures? :)

[Jack25]

Does it go back to your own option file when you play PES normally again after going online?
Please say i'm right...

[dragonskin]

Does it go back to your own option file when you play PES normally again after going online?
Please say i'm right...
Yes it does.

[AceRimmer]

Looking good. Looking forward to playing you guys. I was very good on PES4, shame I haven't re-created that on PES5......:sad:

If you've played FIFA online(Which you probably won't have..) Which is better?

I find that on FIFA online the lag is minimal at worst. Most of the time it is smooth. If PES5 can be like FIFA online, it will be fantastic.

[kopite_8]

can we see the picture please of the ranking system?

[synch]

Have to get them off of my cam, resize and host them. Probably won't get around to it 'till tomorrow but I'll do it as soon as I have the chance to.

[Jack25]

Yes it does.
Thank god for that:cheesy:

[synch]

Found the time ;)

http://walter.sb-1.net/bb/pf/pes5-ranking/1.JPG

http://walter.sb-1.net/bb/pf/pes5-ranking/2.JPG

http://walter.sb-1.net/bb/pf/pes5-ranking/3.JPG

http://walter.sb-1.net/bb/pf/pes5-ranking/5.JPG

http://walter.sb-1.net/bb/pf/pes5-ranking/6.JPG

http://walter.sb-1.net/bb/pf/pes5-ranking/7.JPG

[mikki747]

great stuff man keep it coming, and chance of seeing a matches prgress?

[supersteve]

ooh im sodden. anyone know the costs?

[kopite_8]

omg, great pics ,let me play!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Basarili]

Who on earth call his self Yoghurt :D

[Senden]

Just a quick question for the refs, does it cost anything to play? In the manual it mentioned something about a small fee to connect to the service which i assume means the lobby Konami made.

[kopite_8]

oh no always a cost. go on how much are they rbbing us?

[dragonskin]

Free to play so far, haven't seen the manual myself :undecide:

[kopite_8]

so far. so there may be a price???

will this be each time we connect or one payment

[dragonskin]

No idea as I haven't read the manual.

[Basarili]

I dont think there will be any costs on online playing for PES5 or else everybody that wanted to play online football on the PS2 would be buying Fifa even if their not better than Pro.

[synch]

It's free but they've put some sort of disclaimer about how it might be paid in the future.

Doesn't mean it will be though.

[Senden]

the downloadable pdf one which was mentioned a week ago, maybe that only applies for Japan.

[Senden]

It's free but they've put some sort of disclaimer about how it might be paid in the future.

Doesn't mean it will be though.

Yeah, Novalogic done it with Joint Ops and i am sure a lot of other companies investing in online play do.

[jlmcclan]

Will you have to be in Europe to play PES 5 online?

I'm asking because I play Pro Evo on a European PS2 (with a multi-system TV), but I'm currently in North America.

I'm guessing that you'll not be able to play PES 5 online in North America. It has something to do with servers, I believe.

I think I read somewhere that Winning Eleven 8 Liveware Evolution's online play only worked in Japan. Although some computer-savy people might have figured out a way around this.

But I'm not computer-savy. :(

Can anyone definitively tell me whether you'll be able to play European Pro Evo online outside of Europe? :confused:

[Basarili]

It's free but they've put some sort of disclaimer about how it might be paid in the future.

Doesn't mean it will be though.

Hope it wont happen.

[TimIgoe]

Some in game pics :) from an online game as was requested - same as a normal game really :)

hard to play and use a digicam at the same time ;)

[Farrmark]

Nice pics Tim :)

[TimIgoe]

hehe :)

[Farrmark]

Check out the rankings and know why the PESFan Refs Rule :ha::ha:

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/650/image2585hb.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[andyhare]

the pic doesnt work
i cant wait to get it online :ha:

edit: now it does :D

[Jezthompson]

So do you can join that league and play league games? Then you get a ranking.

What about view mode? Say for example i play on wide camera but the person i play is used to close or something. Does that mean i have to play close or doesnt it matter?

[SA 306]

i think you'll be able to use your own personal view defo dude

[Farrmark]

You can choose your own view :)

But you'll have to use a pause to do it and I don't think it's saves so you'd have to do it each time :undecide:

[LipuC]

what is 2 v 2 like guys?

[Jezthompson]

Ahh cool, alwasy a pain when i play someone else and they use another camera!

So will there be a pesfan league ;)

[Farrmark]

Not tried 2v2 as it requires having 2 people on each PS2 (not 4 PS2's)

It'll screw up your rankings, unless you play in the unranked room :)

[Andy"The"Master]

luks amazin wiv all da leagues! so on online play, ya can hav leagues full of other ppl from around the country and play matches every week or so on...?

[JSN]

Check out the rankings and know why the PESFan Refs Rule :ha::ha:

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/650/image2585hb.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

dude you need to update the pic

I've stormed into the top 10 ;) :p

[sajid_t]

anyone know how much bandwidth playin online takes am on ntl 1mb but theres a 3gb cap, dunno if this is ok??

[HanTerp]

Maybe you guys now can take a look if the ping-bars are there when you are in a match room? Should be left of the name in green, yellow or red.... see my question before...

It looks like the way the rating is calculated did not change from that with PES 4 on LIVE. The more you play the higher you are on the ranking, is that correct?

[Farrmark]

Maybe you guys now can take a look if the ping-bars are there when you are in a match room? Should be left of the name in green, yellow or red.... see my question before...

It looks like the way the rating is calculated did not change from that with PES 4 on LIVE. The more you play the higher you are on the ranking, is that correct?I've only ever seen Green arrows next to a name when I joined a game room.

The ratings are much better then PES4 Live, if I go and lose my next few games I'll seriously drop down the ratings :(

[HanTerp]

Thanks :)
If you lose, are points subtracted, like in the elo-rating system, of are points never subtracted?

[Farrmark]

You'll lose points if you lose matches, if you lose to lower ranked players you'll lose more points :)

[Ste]

You'll lose points if you lose matches, if you lose to lower ranked players you'll lose more points :)

So what you are saying is its a ELO system they use now instead of whoever has played the most games has the best rank system :p

Happy they have sorted that.

[Farrmark]

I have no idea what an ELO system is, I thought they were an old band :ha::ha:

[techmob]

ELO is the ranking system everyone called for for pes4 when they knew a patch was coming out!"

It was designed for chess, and is used on many online games!

so big improvement there for konami!

what i would like to know, but you probably don't know the answer.. will the xbox online be the same as the ps2 we are seeing here?

[Ste]

Im guessing the online mode should be the same mabye slightly better lag wise etc since they have used live on the previous version already but im just clutching at straws there.

[Farrmark]

I only have the PS2 version as we don't have the Xbox promo yet :(

[kopite_8]

feel sorry for you!!!!!

you must be going through a rough time with just the ps2 version!

[Farrmark]

feel sorry for you!!!!!

you must be going through a rough time with just the ps2 version!Indeed I am :cheesy::cheesy:

[kopite_8]

lol owen looks sofat on that picture!!!

[techmob]

So with it having different lobbies, can you create a room for example call it pesfans cup.. then have people join and play games from within that room, and each score is logged into a table/ranking table even?

is this possible

if it is then that will be superb!

can anyone answer that please, as there was talk about having online leagues etc, is this true!

[_-elsk-_]

you need a broadband connection and a PS2 adaptor, obviously you need to have the internet in the same room as the PS2.

[HanTerp]

http://walter.sb-1.net/bb/pf/pes5-ranking/2.JPG


After watching closer to this picture I have my doubts that the elo-system is used.
You said they subtract points if you loose and subtract more points if you lose against a weaker player, right? Just watch the score from number one placed in that table and number three. Number one did win a lot, but those 32 defeats shoud bring his rating down again. Number three has a superior percentage of wins and shoud be higher on the list as the current number one. Still number one has twice as much points!
So please do us a favor and when you go playing again will you write down this:
A: your rating before the match and your new rating after the match.
B: Same for your opponent.
C: Result of the match.

That way we can figure out how this system works.
Will you do that for us? Would be very helpful :)

[tedmaul]

But if number three is winning against weaker opponents then his score would not go up as much, as it goes up more the higher ranked your opponent. It's also going to be a bit weird at the moment, cos you only have about 15 people on the rankings. Until there's hundreds of people on there the table won't be v. accurate. For example, i'm third best in the world, and yet anyone who's played me would tell you i'm complete gash....:D

[HanTerp]

But if number three is winning against weaker opponents then his score would not go up as much, as it goes up more the higher ranked your opponent.
You certainly can be right about this, but I find the score from number one very high compared with the others, which points to his number of games.
In the ELO-rating system you have an accurate rating after about 20 games, so the rating of number three should be accurate now. But that is not the case if you see the score of him, compared to that from number one..

That's why I ask you and others if you will be so kind to write down the data I mentioned in my previous post. In that case we can figure it out :)

[?jamie?]

can wait to play online

[Rikas]

very good :D

:rolleyes:

[LipuC]

Do you get points for a draw?

[dragonskin]

I think the lower ranked player might get points.

[TLT]

I understand that - at half time - the host is swapped over. But i guess the initial host (of the 1st half) sets the game conditions ? eg - weather, time of day/night, game length etc.

Also can you use an option file with it? Or just the default one :)

[dragonskin]

At half time, the host switches to make it fair.
Initial host sets the game conditions(weather, condition, time etc)
It uses default option file(default kits and default names)

[TLT]

At half time, the host switches to make it fair.
Initial host sets the game conditions(weather, condition, time etc)
It uses default option file(default kits and default names)

Ok - thats what i thought. Cheers.

Does Luka have a copy(i assume, he is a ref). Il make him buy a network adaptor and find his house (he lives in Loughborough :ha: )

[Beckham2461]

At half time, the host switches to make it fair.
Initial host sets the game conditions(weather, condition, time etc)
It uses default option file(default kits and default names)

Do you HAVE to switch?

[dragonskin]

Do you HAVE to switch?
It's automatic, haven't seen anything to keep the same host.

[Bonessi]

You have no choice.

Besides, it's the fairest way

[TLT]

Do you HAVE to switch?

Well in the past the host used to have an advantage, because they got less lag :)

So people preferred to host than join games.

So i think this way is alot fairer.

[Beckham2461]

Yeah I guess, but say a 8mb player was playing a 1mb player, wouldn't it be more fair to let the 8mb player stay host?

:undecide:

Thanks for all the stuff btw, can't wait to get online :cool:

[TLT]

There are 10 main servers, with 10 rooms in each yeah?

Any estimation to how many people each server can hold?

[bailes550]

So with it having different lobbies, can you create a room for example call it pesfans cup.. then have people join and play games from within that room, and each score is logged into a table/ranking table even?

is this possible

if it is then that will be superb!

can anyone answer that please, as there was talk about having online leagues etc, is this true!

does anyone know if you can do this

[Bonessi]

1000 to a server tlt

Bailes/techmob
nope you just set up games in a lobby for now.

The actual rankings etc are done seperately. However, watch this space for more details on cups etc

[TLT]

1000 to a server tlt



Cheers - iv no idea how many will want to play online at any one time, but 1000 per server sounds a fair amount !! :cool:

[davepes5]

need some more players for pes 5 champs league check it out !!!!

http://www.pesfan.com/bulletin/showthread.php?t=85351

[Njorgo]

It uses default option file(default kits and default names)
So it's not possible to use a modified OF, even if both would agree?

[TLT]

So it's not possible to use a modified OF, even if both would agree?

I dont think so - that was the case on the xbox/pc so i think it will be the same.

Can Master League teams be used :cool: ?

[Farrmark]

There's no option for loading a file so it's not possible :)

[dubble-r]

i hope they have another ranking sytem that ranks u against the people who has played the same amount of games as you

[Ferret]

cat 5 CROSSOVER direct to the PC (Unless you have a proper network - in which case you just want a normal cat5 cable into a switch)

Thanks for the help mate.

Now I just gota sort out how Im gona do it..

[awb83]

i cant' wait to play this online.

[tomxx]

How is lag compare to pes4 pc version?

[dragonskin]

It depends on who you play against, but I don't think it's as bad so far, but it might change when the game actually gets released :cheesy:

[Senden]

It couldn't possibly be as bad as PES4 or they wouldn't let you change hosts at half time.

If they did, adsl users would totally and utterly ruin the whole game for everyone.

[dubble-r]

they should make it an option at halftime. wot are the online modes availble