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    PES 2017 Revamp the BAL mode

    Since 2014 the gameplay has been greatly improved. The new installment also is packed with dynamic weather, collision system, real time ball physics and cool Fox engine animations 3x more. The ML has also been revamped this year, which we will get to know once PES2016 hits the stores. So only thing remains is the BAL section. I play BAL more than ML and I love PES since 2013. And was shocked by PES2014 since many of the good features of BAL mode from 2013 were cut down in 2014. For instance the locker room scenes, agent and money systems. Later I came to know that PES was switched to Fox Engine for next gen graphics.

    And after the 2015 release, it was clear that Konami has played a business strategy to counter EA in the long run. The moment Konami optimizes the engine for PES, it will become the visually enthralling sports game there and then. However since we are impatient guys here, there are few things that should be taken care of asap, to give the feel that we are moving in right direction.

    Revamp the BAL mode :

    1) National Teams : Please provide as many National Teams as there are Nationality options. If not possible then please provide provisions in Edit mode, where we can create our own national team and assign players, kits, managers to it. A career mode without playing in National Team is unacceptable now.

    2) My Face and Commentary Name : If I play as myself in BAL shouldn't the commentator call my name instead of some pre-recorded name. Similarly if Neymar's face can be scanned why not mine ? Something of this effect has been done by WW2K15 where the front face profile can be added as face mask to the player's head.

    3) Let the players/managers talk : In career mode, it would be better if the players and managers talk with each other through cutscenes. It seems as if the only people who can speak in the PES Universe are John & Jim. Cutscenes with subtitles have been already done in PES2013, the only addition will be voice acting for such scenes.

    4) The Story of the Legend : Please create some sort of background story to go with the BAL player. Something which answers that:
    What inspired the player to BAL ? How and where he took his initial basic training ? How he got his first breakthrough and so on ?
    Every event, achievement, goal should be a memorable chapter in the life of the legend.
    One way to do this can be in Flashback. Our Legend has retired after a successful career has written his autobiography, from which he is reading to the public in the press meeting. The different chapters of the Book can be as follows :
    • Inspiration : This can be some star player that our legend has aspired to be. The star might have visited his school, patted his back, signed autograph or it can simply be a Trading card or poster inside our teen legend's room.
    • Basic Training : This is the correct place for the Training section present in PES games. Our legend goes to the local Coach. Here we can show our players how this new gameplay or shooting system works. Only most basic things. The local Coach being impressed with the performance can give us a chance in the local city Team under 15 may be, and our Hero's journey starts.
    • The Big Break : Can be some local game, where some Scout went to track some boys for the junior team. If he likes our game, he gives us a chance to play in the junior/senior club. Or the senior club send us on loan to develop etc.
    • The National Jersey : First chance to wear National Jersey.
    • Rival Derby : Playing the rival derby is always special.
    • The Dream Game : Playing with the idol player who inspired our legend in childhood.
    • The biggest achievement : Winning trophies for the club.
    • The SAGA : winning world cup for the Nation.
    • The Legacy : Last CLUB/National Match.


    *This is just an example. There are hundreds of methods to do it way better.
    However after the retirement instead of ending the mode a Coaching Offer can be made to the Player, accepting it the Master League should start with the player as the Manager/Coach.

    5) Where does the Money go ? : Please bring back the Monetary system and make it the driving factor of Transfer/Negotiations decisions etc. Player must be able to negotiate the Fixed Salary to some extent. Like in ML the manager can adjust the salary for a player and it affects the mood of the player etc.

    The money can be earned in following ways :
    • Salary : Earned as per contract. There should be Bonuses or Deductions as per performance.
    • Endorsements & Commercials : As the player becomes popular the Agent will bring Contracts for Endorsements from Sponsors. This will depend upon the player attribute 'Fan Following'. In early stage too the player can reach out to Endorsements for extra money.
    • Profit from Investments


    The money earned as salary can be spent in the following ways :
    • Agents : For better career opportunities better agents are required.
    • Equipment : During start of the career you spend money on your Boots etc for better performance. At later stage they are taken care by the sponsors, through endorsement deals signed by players.
    • Leisure : Holiday with Family or Girlfriend, or some other recreational activity. A player attribute such as mood can be tied to it. Better the mood better the form. This make sure the player takes proper rest before important matches and don't exhaust himself.
    • Property : Same as leisure, buying House or Cars enhance mental satisfaction of the player, hence the Mood and Form.
    • Franchise : The player can also buy some franchise or invest or partly sponsor some other teams. The teams performance can cause Profit or Loss to the player thereby affecting the mood.
    • Accessories : Having new haircut, new gloves, necklace, watch etc. Some acrobatic celebration can also be acquired by paying the trainer.
    • Charity : Charity or Philanthropy can be tied to another attribute Fan Following. Greater the fan following greater fans will support the player and his club during matches which will result in higher Team Spirit as well as greater opportunities for new sponsors and endorsements contracts.


    6) Transfer and Loans : Please add Loan clauses as well as Buyout clauses in BAL. Where instead of watching earlier matches from the stand or bench tha player can be put out on loan to other clubs. Transfer method was better in PES2013 where the scouts come to watch the performance during the early developing stage. They put some condition like minimum rating above 7 to start negotiation.

    7) What is the Objective ? : There is no point in playing continuous matches again and again without knowing if you are playing correct or not. Instead it will be better if for each match the Manager assign some match objective to the player. For example an AMF can be assigned the job to create opportunities for striker i.e. make 5 clean passes to the striker. Striker can be assigned to score a goal/assist. Completing all match objectives must increase the attribute ''Manager's Faith''.

    8) Where is my Cameraman ? : The Player Camera in BAL needs correction. The player currently stands at the bottom of the screen. This blocks the view while you are running for a throughball or high pass. It would be better if the player is placed in the middle or a Dynamic Camera is used. Also when on bench the camera should be fixed on the player at the bench from that perspective the match should be visible. When playing BAL in player camera mode commentary should be disabled to give realstic effect.

    9) Attributes : 2 new attributes can be added namely
    • Fan Following : Fan support depending upon performance. Higher the fan following higher the Team spirit and player confidence.
    • Style : Fairplay or Cheat. Fairplay or Cheat meter will decide the playing style. Whether the player goes for frequent tackling causing fouls or play smooth without hurting others. As the Cheat meter fills player can perform cheat skills without referee noticing such as Handling the ball, pushing opponent, fall down in the box to gain penalty. Similarly when Fairplay meter fills the player dribbling, accuracy, swerve increases. This can be used only once in a match. May be upgraded to a max of 3 times a match.


    10) Skill Training : Point based training is very boring. It would be great if some interactive training sessions can be incorporated between matches. In these training sessions player can practice some challenges to increase their skill attributes as well as learn new tricks. Instead of waiting 40 odd days to learn sombrero it would be better if the player can practice it between matches and unlock it. This way it will be easier to practice the trick as well as we can learn how and when to use it in matches. Player specific skills like Ronaldo chop or Messi Nutmeg etc can either be learnt from those players only as teammates or by spending some hefty salary to Konami Training Institute.


    11) Feel The Emotion that is Football : The emotional aspect can be touch upon by follwing ways:
    • Animations & Cutscenes : Manager and bench player reactions of the match, Cutscenes of misses and fouls, Celebrations with manager and bench players, Take matchball home celebration, no goal celebration while losing 1-4, players shaking hand exchanging jersey after match, managers hugging shaking hands after match, players helping other players to get up after tackle, patting opponent player for great performance etc are some scenarios that can enhance the drama on the pitch.
    • Dynamic Pitch & Crowd : Dynamic pitch to show weather effects and wither off during play. Dynamic crowd where each person reacts to match on its own. This can be real test to Fox engine. Also the crowd numbers are same for all the matches, which should not be the case. House full on popular matches while empty seats on friendlies or groupstage matches.
    • Dynamic Injury system : is a defacto after the collision system.
    • Interviews and PCs : After match or after new signing interviews can be made by player where the player actually talks. How to answer the question can be choosen by the player. Something on the lines of NBA2k15.


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    I will post this in another thread if you dont mind for pes2018.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars2000 View Post
    I will post this in another thread if you dont mind for pes2018.
    Do it...

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    PS3 Gamer Tag: mythomaniac
    Great post @rex007king
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    Game over man, game over.


 

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